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Post by dbeetle on Aug 5, 2013 14:26:52 GMT -5
Are you speaking of practical "trick application"? Because that sounds interesting.
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Post by M on Aug 6, 2013 20:51:49 GMT -5
Pretty much. haha I think that'd be the next rational stage. Doing tricks to help you "survive" and bring you the win rather than doing them just cos.
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Post by dbeetle on Aug 6, 2013 23:08:45 GMT -5
Interesting. The only things I can come up with on the spot are various slide tricks to aid in sharpening turns, and using various flips to extend the distance of jumps by shifting the center of gravity. Must think of more.
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Post by Laith (Lion) on Aug 7, 2013 5:07:17 GMT -5
Interesting. The only things I can come up with on the spot are various slide tricks to aid in sharpening turns, and using various flips to extend the distance of jumps by shifting the center of gravity. Must think of more. Plants (for obvious reasons), grinds to clear something long, stalls to jump across something, wall ride could help too
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Post by Tamoy (kg) on Aug 8, 2013 3:18:24 GMT -5
This might seem like a weird and unused idea but also crouching Cess slides to enable you to "slide" under objects. An example of this is on this video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyzJoZKGTlMto see what I mean, Skip to the time: 06:25-06:27
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Post by Laith (Lion) on Aug 8, 2013 23:51:08 GMT -5
This might seem like a weird and unused idea but also crouching Cess slides to enable you to "slide" under objects. An example of this is on this video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyzJoZKGTlMto see what I mean, Skip to the time: 06:25-06:27 Tri tri Rudolph does those cess under objects a lot in this one edit called tri tri Rudolph and Aaron Pyle (or maybe it was the other way around)
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Post by Tamoy (kg) on Aug 10, 2013 22:47:56 GMT -5
woah! nice one Laith! a even better example!!
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Post by blue on Aug 18, 2013 21:04:19 GMT -5
What's this? The discussion of creation of real life AT's?? You are all BANNED.
lol, but seriously guys, what happened on the second page -those issues aside, I would say I agree with what Shadow and others said earlier with the idea that it is the image of the rider that needs to be updated, not the gear. Although, I would concede that like dbeetle said the most common image of our sport is the run of the mill blocky, uncomfortable wal-mart rec skate. Sorry if this happens to be anyones setup. But something like the USD classic 80 or the new seba pro model should be the image of the tool of our trade, and a rec skate is not the ideal to start ideas for modification from... and the process wont start with the gear, and proceed to bring in new people, it would not work that way because you need the people first to bring in the market to get money to even make lots of new gear in the first place. I will concur with what Yami said that it is us, the existing force that has to go out and do what we love and explore the options we already have to the fullest and then maybe people will see what bladers/skaters really are
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Post by Laith (Lion) on Aug 19, 2013 3:17:11 GMT -5
What's this? The discussion of creation of real life AT's?? You are all BANNED. lol, but seriously guys, what happened on the second page -those issues aside, I would say I agree with what Shadow and others said earlier with the idea that it is the image of the rider that needs to be updated, not the gear. Although, I would concede that like dbeetle said the most common image of our sport is the run of the mill blocky, uncomfortable wal-mart rec skate. Sorry if this happens to be anyones setup. But something like the USD classic 80 or the new seba pro model should be the image of the tool of our trade, and a rec skate is not the ideal to start ideas for modification from... and the process wont start with the gear, and proceed to bring in new people, it would not work that way because you need the people first to bring in the market to get money to even make lots of new gear in the first place. I will concur with what Yami said that it is us, the existing force that has to go out and do what we love and explore the options we already have to the fullest and then maybe people will see what bladers/skaters really are Did you even read it all properly or if you just skim though it because its long, go back and try again
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Post by blue on Aug 19, 2013 13:57:35 GMT -5
Go back and try what again? Are you referring to the reference I made about the second page comments? I was joking man
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Post by Laith (Lion) on Aug 20, 2013 5:11:15 GMT -5
Go back and try what again? Are you referring to the reference I made about the second page comments? I was joking man No I mean you mixed it up it was an argument of dreaming or being a realist, shadow was the dreamer and I the realist I wanted to update the image of bladers and to slowly shift our audience to aggro only (back then) but now I think the more the merrier not that it would help make at magicaly. Oh and he's a rec skater i think
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Post by Andy (vampfrog) on Aug 21, 2013 1:20:51 GMT -5
I dont belive agro only is a good idea all forms of blading are usefull and since f class is dash agro skates are actuly at an disatvatage in tje first event. I feel the parts war should be all bladers/skates. agro actuly has a verry bad image to the mass majority of people most skates sold are rec hocky and race most people dont find juming on down rails entertaining, most have also not tryed it. From a marketing standpoint going agro only will be shoting the site in the foot. You will aleanate many riders and limit what can be done, every kind of blade has advatages and disadvatages and ther are thing you can only do in certant setups
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Post by M on Aug 21, 2013 2:00:12 GMT -5
I believe Lion was saying he used to think that was the way to go back then. :] To me, riding will always be riding. The type of tricks a rider does and the type of equipment they use only reflect the choices they made that they felt would take them where they wanted go, if you will. I know pretty fast riders that use aggressive setups. So, even in an F class match, you wouldn't wanna underestimate an "aggressive" style rider. haha Besides, all styles of skating started as someone's road at some point, anyway. :3 Think about aggressive riding and how it started. Aggressive riders saw the stuff they were doing executed by riders across the country/world. lulz That's rather amazing and says a lot, not just about skating, about humanity in general, at least to me. haha
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Post by Andy (vampfrog) on Aug 21, 2013 14:36:26 GMT -5
Sorry mis read the last part of the post haha
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Post by blue on Aug 21, 2013 14:43:24 GMT -5
What I meant is that the basic wal mart rec skate is not the ideal base to form customizations off of. I dont intend to alienate any riders based on how they ride. Its better to work toward something that is kind of a fusion of the different types to break down barriers like Yami said. I think the usd classic 80, CJ Wellsmore's seba pro model, or something of the like is a good stock skate to represent us, as it covers use of more than one style. Rec skates can be used for various things like Yami said but its not necessarily the best option when talking about doing a wide variety of things on skates. And I read the whole posts and you guys started drifting to at creation again lol
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