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Post by John (bostonsk8er) on May 14, 2013 9:54:12 GMT -5
Some interesting points here. What it all comes down to is differences in style... The reason slalom skaters don't use aggressive frames is that speed carried over distance is easily lost due to smaller wheel size. Aggressive skaters prefer a frame lower to the ground for trick feel. The speed does indeed require more work over distance, but acceleration is better. There will never be a good for everything frame. Reason being for every discipline there are vastly different needs to accomodate.
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Post by Lion on Jul 23, 2013 1:55:23 GMT -5
while sacrificing tight turns and half my trick vocabulary, ya dig? Since when performing tight turns with +76 mm. wheels become not possible? From my own experience I can say that I can perform extremely sharp turn and dead stops with 80 mm. flat setup. And while using aggressive 59 mm. anti-rocker setup I needed more than 10 meters to stop, because wheels were too hard and small for effective braking. Here's the thing: why do you think race cars have big brakes? Because they cool down faster, have a lot more working surface thus increasing the overall braking effectiveness. I can bet 76-80 mm. flat setup will brake to a dead stop a less than half of distance needed for 59 mm. anti-rocker setup. The problem isn't the size the problem is you (no offence) the breaking style is different because when you have small wheels you don't slide on them you slide on your soul plates.. The techniques are different my suggestion to you ride on smaller wheels for a month or two don't love just learn the difference in technique
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Post by Andy (vampfrog) on Jul 24, 2013 15:39:50 GMT -5
The surfase area betwen your wheels and the ground is not dependent on wheel size but instead on the wheels profile I circle will only tuch at one point to a line with out the line going through the circle. If you had two feames with diferent wheel sizes and bothe with enuff clearence to do a parallel slide they would perform, in terms of stoping distance, the same givin the profile, urathan, and core are the same. Softer urathane has a slight give to it alowing the circle to be temporaly flat at the surface under presur. This will also give you mour surface area.
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Post by Laith (Lion) on Jul 28, 2013 2:55:06 GMT -5
The surfase area betwen your wheels and the ground is not dependent on wheel size but instead on the wheels profile I circle will only tuch at one point to a line with out the line going through the circle. If you had two feames with diferent wheel sizes and bothe with enuff clearence to do a parallel slide they would perform, in terms of stoping distance, the same givin the profile, urathan, and core are the same. Softer urathane has a slight give to it alowing the circle to be temporaly flat at the surface under presur. This will also give you mour surface area. VF I am not sure about other people but I have no idea what you mean, could you rewrite it?
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Post by Andy (vampfrog) on Jul 28, 2013 17:43:01 GMT -5
Moor contact with the ground (surface area) will give you moor friction (force needed to acselerate and stop). A wheel no matter how big in diamitor it is will contact the gound at one point. If you draw 2 circles, one big one and one small one, both siting on a line. That line can only toutch both circles at one point with out going through the circle. Think of the circles as wheels and the line as the ground. Both wheels in this case have the same amount of surface area toutching the ground. This shows that if the two wheels are identical in every way other then in size, there stoping distance will be the same in regards to useing a slide to stop.
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Post by Laith (Lion) on Jul 30, 2013 22:24:58 GMT -5
Moor contact with the ground (surface area) will give you moor friction (force needed to acselerate and stop). A wheel no matter how big in diamitor it is will contact the gound at one point. If you draw 2 circles, one big one and one small one, both siting on a line. That line can only toutch both circles at one point with out going through the circle. Think of the circles as wheels and the line as the ground. Both wheels in this case have the same amount of surface area toutching the ground. This shows that if the two wheels are identical in every way other then in size, there stoping distance will be the same in regards to useing a slide to stop. VF Oh I understand and no your wrong the wheels are shaped differently aggressive wheels have more surface area per wheel cause they are flat like a cars wheel where as the big wheels are pointed but there are more wheels, also you stop differently too aggressives cess slide using the side of the soul plate so more surface area where as fsk use the wheels to slide
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Post by Andy (vampfrog) on Aug 1, 2013 20:45:08 GMT -5
i mentioned the profile of the wheels in the comment before you actually have moor surface area on a pointed profile when sliding cus moor of the side of the wheel is touching vs just the corner on a moor round or square profile cess slides will take longer to stop because the plastic is harder then urethane can still do slides in power blade frames just cant bend as low or youll go in to cess
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Post by Laith (Lion) on Aug 2, 2013 1:10:02 GMT -5
i mentioned the profile of the wheels in the comment before you actually have moor surface area on a pointed profile when sliding cus moor of the side of the wheel is touching vs just the corner on a moor round or square profile cess slides will take longer to stop because the plastic is harder then urethane can still do slides in power blade frames just cant bend as low or youll go in to cess VF MORE* I was talking about when generally rolling in the first part then sliding in the second part.. aggro skaters only cess slide and only use there soul plates not the wheels and from what I've seen fsk slide longer than aggro and I'm in china the home of fsk (well at least some world champions )
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Post by Andy (vampfrog) on Aug 2, 2013 2:26:55 GMT -5
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Post by Laith (Lion) on Aug 3, 2013 10:52:07 GMT -5
It's longer because they waxed the floor first, except the first vid and his souls were touching it was a royale (he's aggro skater that loves parkour) you can tell by his knees.. I have seen fsk ppl slide longer on un-waxed surfaces sadly only in person and I won't be in china till September so enjoy the wait I guess
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Post by Andy (vampfrog) on Aug 3, 2013 20:27:43 GMT -5
I relly look forward to fotage frome that Love seeing the "best" in all formes of bladding thers so much that can be done In this sport its amazing
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Post by Teague (FiSHY) on Mar 24, 2014 0:35:48 GMT -5
Im contemplating on designing a new mounting part for UFS skates and frames.
Issue:
Have you ever left your house on your Powerblade/Big wheel skates, rolled to the park, took your skates off and either had to put a different pair of aggressive skates on or mount a pair of aggressive frames on your aggressive skates?
Have you ever wanted an easier way to swap from one skating style to another in a much quicker and easier fashion?
Concept Idea:
A specialized bolt with the ability to quickly and easily mount and unmount skate frames. Like a clip that you can just snap on and off any UFS frame you want in a couple seconds!
I know you could just take the time to swap the frames by taking the bolts out but why not just use that time skating?
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Post by blue on Mar 28, 2014 12:37:24 GMT -5
Dude thats freakin brilliant. Tuner status lol
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